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Postby David Head » 05 Fri Sep, 2008 12:53 pm

The Maroon Manx is in need of some new mufflers. I am currently running duals but am not opposed to a merged or a sidewinder type. What is everybody else running and what do you like.

It would be nice to not have to take them off to adjust the valves.

Also, Chrome vs Ceramic
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Postby GregR » 05 Fri Sep, 2008 1:20 pm

I really like my quiet pack. I had it ceramic coated and after 4 years is showing some "yuck" bleeding through from underneath. I still like it and would go ceramic again when (if) I replace it.
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Postby ckolek » 05 Fri Sep, 2008 2:04 pm

ceramic coated quietpack for me, i love it and my neighbors love it also...[img][img]http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m44/ckolek/projects157-1.jpg[/img][/img]
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Postby Bryan Porter » 05 Fri Sep, 2008 3:05 pm

Two quietpack mufflers and ceramic coated
10 years old and looking good a little scothbrite
cleans them up real good plus you can talk to
your wife whthout YELLING.
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Postby Aquabuggy » 05 Fri Sep, 2008 8:32 pm

Bryan Porter wrote: you can talk to
your wife whthout YELLING.

:roll: Where's the fun in that? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Bill K » 06 Sat Sep, 2008 7:10 am

I just got an inquiry from someone who visited the Roundup, and has started building a buggy. He was told that running the dual megaphone exhause like I am can reduce your power by 30%: Is that correct?

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Postby Vee Dub Nut » 06 Sat Sep, 2008 9:18 am

The dual megaphones are not made for power.. they are for looks and sound

Now I don't buy that your loosing 30% over an actual header and muffler system, but you aren't getting the benefits of true header. I would say at the most your only loosing a few hp. An actual header that has equal length tubes promote the scavenging effect within the exhaust and tune the flow of gases out of the engine. Your average person will really not notice much of a difference unless you have it on a dyno reading its true output back to back.

Now I've had some folks tell me they noticed a HUGE difference when changing to different exhaust systems, but I venture to say there was something not right with their set up before.. like appropriate tuning or jetting for their previous exhaust.. JMO
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Postby Aquabuggy » 06 Sat Sep, 2008 11:10 am

Ive done quite a bit of research on this and Im with Adam, on a stock engine you may gain 2 or3 hp with a 4 into 1 exhaust header.

Now when you get into big performance engines big cam dual carbs high compression turning lots of rpm it really starts to make a big difference, a properly designed header may well make close to a 30% difference in power.

When I say properly designed header Im not talking about the off the shelf $200 stuff, this would be a header custom designed to complement the other components of the engine.
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Postby Ken » 07 Sun Sep, 2008 6:26 pm

From the way I understand it, headers or any exhaust system without an actual muffler will reduce performance. But it may not be noticed. As you start improving the performance of your car, exhaust will become more important and at some point mufflers over headers will make a noticeable difference.

I think, for most of us it would not be very noticeable?
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Postby David Head » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 8:44 am

Chrisopher,Bryan and Greg,
What manufacter of the Quiet Pack did you use? And where did you purchase it.

Edie and I drove around this weekend and with the baffles out of the dual pipes, It sounds cool but it gets old REAL fast.

Also, It looks like with Christophers set-up, you can adjust the valves without removing the J-tube. Is the the same with Bryans and Gregs?

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Postby Bryan Porter » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 9:03 am

Mine is a bug pack and you can adjust the valves with them on.
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Postby GregR » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 10:14 am

Mine is also a bugpack
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Postby David Head » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 1:03 pm

Next question.

I'm running a 1776cc with dual Kadrons.-------Is the 1 1/2 inch OK or do I need the 1 5/8??????
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Postby Vee Dub Nut » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 1:04 pm

IMO... 1.5"
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Postby David Head » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 1:20 pm

Thanks Adam.
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Postby MURZ » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 1:40 pm

I really like the setup I had on my old car for it being quiet. Now, if I had to do it over I would get the ceramic version.
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As for power...who cares?? You guys...mostly are running 60-70 hp engines and a 5-10% reduction in power(2-7hp) is not enough to sacrifice cool :lol: :lol: The dual cannons do a much better job showing off the engine.

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The hayabusa exhaust was quiet though. here is a video.

Maybe someone could fab a system with the cannons replaced with street bike cans??

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Postby ckolek » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 1:42 pm

mine is TRIMIL and you can adjust the valves without removing anything...
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Postby GregR » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 5:27 pm

I think Johnny B used a couple of Harley mufflers on his orange and white buggy.
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Postby Bill K » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 8:59 pm

Check out those '47 Plymouth tail lights on Johnny's buggy. What a perfect fit.
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Postby Texasbuggys » 08 Mon Sep, 2008 9:15 pm

And Johnny is a great fab guy and has some really innovative ideas in his buggy build! And he sure made my old 4 bbl intake work out nice on his buggy! Way to go JB.
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Postby Jack Duncan » 17 Wed Sep, 2008 7:36 pm

I am the guy BillK was talking about. My engine is a 1915cc and I can stand to reduce my hp a few horses. I love the looks of Bill's duals. :)
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