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Postby CoryN » 01 Fri Feb, 2008 12:40 pm

Just a quick intro, my name is Cory, from McKinney TX and I hope to enter the world of Dune Buggy ownership this weekend.

I've been wanting a dune buggy for some time now, and the Mrs. just gave me her blessing (had to buy her a new car to secure said blessing :roll: )

The thrill of the build is what interests me, so I have located a project buggy, rough body, no motor but supposedly the pan is good. Upon further inquiry I found out he has two, the other one including a supposedly running engine. So I am hopeful that between the two I can get the majority of the parts I'll need to get started. Make is unknown at this point, but I can confirm they are not Manx.

Anyway, I promise not to ask the newbie questions, but I can assure you I will be seeking advice as I go along. I built the Meyer's Manx dune buggy model back in the early 70's but that is about the extent of my building experience. :shock:
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Postby David Head » 01 Fri Feb, 2008 1:13 pm

Welcome aboard.
It's always nice to get new addicts. I too had to get the bosses permission (wife). However, After the wife drives it for the first time, you will have to build another one for yourself.
I'm not to far from you. We have a lot of members up that way. Prosper, Mckinney, Nevada Community, Carrollton come to mind.
Hope we can help you out. David Head
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Postby Russhebert » 01 Fri Feb, 2008 2:14 pm

Welcome to the hobby of dune buggies. one word of warning it will consume you. It did me but I have enjoyed it a lot. I am here in Arlington and if you need any help just let me know and I will do my best to help or put you on the person that can. Welcome.
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Postby Texasbuggys » 01 Fri Feb, 2008 3:18 pm

Welcome to the group
Get your new short or long body, custom chassis, show cages, bumpers and accessories at http://www.texasbuggys.com

E-Mail Texasbuggys@suddenlink.net or call 361-218-6272
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Postby Aquabuggy » 01 Fri Feb, 2008 5:51 pm

Welcome to the club, Glad to have ya!
No need to worry about the newbie questions we all had to start somewhere, so ask away.
My name is Chris and well I'm a buggy-aholic

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Postby wildthang » 01 Fri Feb, 2008 7:42 pm

Welcome aboard Cody. I understand the wife has given you permission to build her a buggy. I understand, I was in that situation once. They lead you to believe it is yours until done then you go out and it is hers from then on. All kidding aside this is a great group just ask the questions someone will definetely help out. 8-)

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Postby Rick Leddon » 02 Sat Feb, 2008 9:33 am

Hi Cory

Welcome to the world of dune buggies. I also live in Mckinney. Contact me if I can help. I can a stock of spare parts that I pick up when I go to California, to have them available and save on shipping cost.

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Postby yoboy » 02 Sat Feb, 2008 9:12 pm

Welcome to the club. We look forward to meeting you and seeing your buggy.

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Postby Buggy1 » 02 Sat Feb, 2008 9:48 pm

Welcome to the club...............best people I know are here. If I can be of any help, feel free to contact me at any time.

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Postby CoryN » 02 Sat Feb, 2008 10:02 pm

Oh - trust me - you don't want to see my buggy - or in otherwords I don't want anybody to see it. I got it on the cheap and its going to require a great deal of work. But that was what I wanted was a project.

I brought one of the two home today, I'll get the other one next weekend.

Some interesting things I've discovered. This one, which I still haven't been able to identify, has a fiberglass pan. It appears they used the tunnel, but the rest of the pan is custom with a fiberglass belly pan. This one has ball joints up front and IRS in the rear. The VIN number is gone, but I discovered a plate on the side of the frame with TEX and a number. It appears this one got a new VIN number at some point.

The other buggy has a VIN number, I don't know the sequence yet, but the guy I bought it from thought it was either a 62 or 65 pan depending on which digit signifies the year. It has a king pin front end and a swing axle in the back. That one has a motor that was supposedly running when it was put to pasture. That body appears to be in a little better shape although it was last painted camo, poorly, but I like the curves of the one I brought home today, which unfortunately is going to need a lot of work.

It looks like it was originally a red metal flake, then painted blue, then what appears to be house paint white on last.

Tomorrow I hope to clean out most of the pshaw that has accumulated in it over the years, pull out the nasty carpet and seats and get rid of the homemade roll bar. I am hoping underneath something somewhere I might find some indication of who made the body originally.

Thanks for the warm welcome, and I'll try to keep the noobie questions to a minimum. But I would like some input as to which route makes more sense for a street buggy:

ball joint or king pin
IRS or swing axle.

As I can go either way at this point.

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Postby Aquabuggy » 02 Sat Feb, 2008 11:44 pm

It really just depends on how your going to be using the buggy - street, off road or drag racing.

Street - bj & irs
Off road - link pin & irs
Drag racing - link or bj & swing axle
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Postby blackthree4me » 11 Mon Feb, 2008 1:44 pm

Oh - trust me - you don't want to see my buggy - or in otherwords I don't want anybody to see it. I got it on the cheap and its going to require a great deal of work.


you under estimate who you are talking too :D
we are sick in here :twisted:
we love to look at basket cases .
:D its what we do :lol:
In here we see what you see, not an old piece of junk
glad to have you in the club.

best of luck on the rebuilds
I realy would like to see the buggy we can help Identify
might want to look over at Barts dunebuggy archives as well
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Postby CoryN » 11 Mon Feb, 2008 3:43 pm

Well - here is an update as to where I stand now. I'll try to get some pictures posted. I like the idea that it is a complete basket case, because when its done I'll have some satisfaction from looking at the before pictures, its just right now everyone thinks I've lost my mind.

Being buggy ignorant, and VW ingnorant both, I probably overpaid for this pile of parts I have in my garage, but I think I have enough to make things work.

The first buggy I brought home has the body I wish to rescue, its a Manx clone, one I am so far unable to identify. It has twin hood scoops but doesn't have the bump in between them like the ones on the DBA. Also, along the sides under the lip it is glassed in bridging the lip with the side of the body making a tunnel, the rear fenders are that way also. It is going to require some work though, one of the front fenders is broken and there was some hackery around the engine compartment, and a lot of swiss cheese in areas.

This one had a homemade chassis I disocovered after pulling it all apart, it had an IRS rear welded on to twin beams that ran the length of the car and bolted to the front ball joint beam. There was a tunnel from a VW cut off at either end welded on top of the beams. The whole bottom was covered in a fiberglass sheet.

The other buggy I brought home has a standard VW pan with a swing axle rear and a link pin front. It appears to date from 1959. The pans are long gone, and I've since removed the tubular frame that was previously around the sides. I am going to switch the ball joint beam from the other buggy to this one and frame up new pans and go with diamond plate floors. (did I mention that aside from knowing nothing about vw mechanics, I also can't weld?) The body on this one is also so far unidentified, it was painted rattlecan camo.

The second buggy came with an engine, which is not frozen, we pushed it down the driveway and had my 11 year old pop the clutch and the motor turned and popped. It has oil in it and looks to be ok. I was told it was running when it was parked in the pasture. It appears to be a 1600 dual port with a single carb mounted up on top. I doubt that will fit under my other body, so I guess I'll need to swap that out. It also appears to have a useable gas tank.

So as of now, I basically have a tunnel and a big pile of parts, two rear ends, two trannies, two front beams, 11 wheels, two gas tanks, two bodies, two poly seats, two badly rusted steering columns/wheels an engine and a big pile of scrap metal.

All this is sitting in my 3 stall garage, while my wife's brand new car that I had to buy her to be able to partake in this hobby is sitting in the driveway. :?

So send positive thoughts that I can get a basic chassis put together out of this and get rid of the rest of the parts and once again achieve harmony in the house. ;-)
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Postby jspbtown » 11 Mon Feb, 2008 10:12 pm

Here is some motivation....
My chassis "before":
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Some elbow grease:
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And then finished:
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So get to work and start tearing it up and breaking it down into assemblies. Fix the front, fix the middle, fix the rear. You can do it!
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Postby CoryN » 11 Mon Feb, 2008 11:23 pm

Well I guess my starting point is about that bad, but I went ahead and cut the pans all the way out.

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Oh and then you said to break it up into assemblies? I got that part covered too!

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Here are the two bodies - both are for a shortened pan

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I'm in over my head ain't I? :roll:
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Postby ckolek » 12 Tue Feb, 2008 8:33 am

i dont think your in over your head,but if momma has to keep parking the new Lexus in the driveway you may be in deep s**t....LOL
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Postby jspbtown » 12 Tue Feb, 2008 8:55 am

Well it looks like yo will at least have a couple of new friends...Mr. Fiberglass & Mr. Bondo (don't use Bondo tho....use Rage Gold). Thats alot of work....but it can be done. I would say they are only a little worse than my Manx was when I started.
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fiberglass is easy to work with. Take a look at this Speedster I did. it was whacked!

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For your chassis...just look for deep rust. Especially in the tunnel & frame head. I also suggest replacing everything in the braking system. Parts are cheap. Working on a rolling chassis is so much easier than trying to get something done after the body is on.
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Postby Bryan Porter » 12 Tue Feb, 2008 9:09 am

My advice pick one and get rid of the other.
Or maybe store it away don't try to do both
at the same time it will drive you nuts.
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Postby BuggymanJohn » 12 Tue Feb, 2008 10:08 am

Welcome. You have just joined up with a bunch of highly motivated, economically challenged, buggy builders that have been just where you are now. Your biggest hurdle is to remain true to the cause and not get frustrated at sometimes slow progress in the build. I have built cars in as little as 3 weeks and some took months. I ran a car body like the white car you have[ one with the seats and roll cage]. Never found the name of it although there are several in the ETex. area still running. You can find pics of it in the members rides under the heading of Extreme Makeover in the before pics. Hope you have as much or more fun in yours as we did. Ask any question you have before putting out monies on something that may not work as well as some others for the same dollar or less. Welcome once again. Buggymanjohn
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Postby CoryN » 12 Tue Feb, 2008 11:16 am

Thanks all...

With the Thunderstorm warnings that came through last night, I broke it down into smaller parts and got the wifes car in the garage.

I am going with the white body - even though it will need more work, I like the shape of it better. I'm actually looking forward to learning fiberglass. I'll tear that chassis down further and essentially only keep the front beam and the rear IRS, I'll just cut it off where it was welded on to this homemade chassis. Might want to convert something to IRS at some point, and it will work good for that.

I'll be getting rid of the camo body - if it appeals to anyone let me know.

At this point I'm still pretty fired up about it all, but I know who to appeal to if I need more inspiration to keep plugging away.
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