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Postby Patrick » 21 Mon Apr, 2008 4:05 pm

I heard that there might not be a classic next year due to people trashing the park and people peeling out in the park. We heard that someone saw that a yellow dune buggy was doing donuts on the main road going out of the park trashing the grass and leaving rubber everywhere. They said they are thinking of not having the classic next year due to all the bad things that are happening within LBJ Park. Say it ain't so. :(
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Postby CoryN » 21 Mon Apr, 2008 4:17 pm

Well - over on the Aircoolers Gang forum they are all bragging about all the burnouts. Doesn't say where they were doing it, So there could be some truth to it.
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Postby Texasbuggys » 21 Mon Apr, 2008 4:18 pm

That would be terrible. I did not see anything like that but we were right next to the pavillion.
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Postby Buggy1 » 21 Mon Apr, 2008 4:35 pm

I don't ever read the air coolers site so I can not see what they said. I only hope that the Texas Manx Dune Buggy Club had nothing to do with it ( the doing doughnuts or burnouts ). I have seen some displays around here by the air coolers getting drunk, fighting at shows, and generally being roudy. I never go to any of their shows after the first one I attended due to this behavor. But I would not be surprised if yet another activity is going away because of those who just don't know how to behave. Where did this new generation think that tearing up stuff and trashing and fighting is a right of passage?

I only hope that we will not be associated with those who tore up a state park, that would be just great since we always seem to assign our club name to the support group..........I would not want that associated to our club. For those who did......... keep it up, pretty soon they will not allow us to gather anywhere!

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Postby Bill K » 21 Mon Apr, 2008 6:00 pm

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Postby big balls magee » 21 Mon Apr, 2008 7:29 pm

i think it might have been the yellow buggy that was for sale, and the guy driving it wasnt even the owner
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Postby Patrick » 21 Mon Apr, 2008 10:44 pm

Your correct! It was the guy that had the yellow buggy for sale. He was doing the burn outs and doing the donuts right in front of the trailers which house the park rangers or who ever they are by the front gates.

I heard from two people who have said that due to burn outs and the people camping and trashing the grounds they are trying to decide on not having it next year.

We were in the back of the line for the cruise on Saturday. Two Air coolers were cussing up a storm and trying to fight one another. One was drunk! Okay I'll just say he was drinking a beer than driving. When the cruise started he got in his bug and drove off.
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Postby big balls magee » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 7:14 am

just a fyi, if you are talking about the guy in the maroon sparkle bug he wasnt drunk, for one he is my brother and for two the guy standing by the porta potty was starting a fight cussing him and causing a scene, my brother just confronted him on it. it wasnt a fight just some unkind words
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Postby Bill K » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 8:21 am

My guess would be they will eliminate the on-site camping. The Classic is just too successful in all other aspects to simply quit doing it.
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Postby CoryN » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 8:52 am

I agree. This was my first time at the classic, and I was surprised to see that they were allowing people to camp out on the grounds. That is just asking for there to be 'disturbances'.
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Postby big balls magee » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 9:14 am

one of my suprises was the fact that ( while i was there) i didnt see alot of trash thrown around. i heard the burnouts were way worse last year. as for the grass getting messed up that was just dumb.
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Postby BuggymanJohn » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 9:56 am

I was not impressed with organisers regard for security for the entire show. To gather that large a crowd requires a presence of law enforcement. Some of the gate receipts should go for night security and est. rules for the camping area. All staff should be watching for this and pull that person out who does not comply. Lastly, we all should be watching for this and immediately report it to the organizers of the event. Don't let a few bad things rob us of that which so many have worked so hard to establish.
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Postby Buggy1 » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 10:44 am

I think you have to have a rule like we used in the Texas Manx Club. I know when we first started the club shows we had a rule. No driving drunk, no getting drunk, and no stupid displays of power or burn outs. When we first started our shows, if you did any of the wrong things, you were ask to leave and we do have policemen in our club that we could count on. Nothing should be judged on " there were worse burnouts last year". It should be SAFETY FIRST, there are kids around. Think of others instead of the "me attitude". That is how bad things happen. While it will take me another year to build the buggy I'm on right now I know that I am not interested in watching fools indanger others.

Instead of confronting a drunk, toss em out............. if your are the point of a fight by a drunk, walk away instead trying to defend yourself...... you can not reason with a drunk.
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Postby Patrick » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 11:54 am

Yep those would be the two guys. I would have to agree the other dude started it. Course your brothers use of the F word and raising his voice made one couple leave as they said they didn't want to sit there in their bug and have thier daughter listten to it. They left. They made a comment, but I wasn't listening to them.

The cruise on Saturday to me was like playing catch up. We couldn't keep up as when people hit the highway they were gone. In a bus that can only go 70mph we still could not catch up to the cars in front of us. It was more like a race than a cruise. Ready to get the buggy on the road then we could keep up.
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Postby big balls magee » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 12:29 pm

i agree, the cruise was the worst part of the classic. it was like a big hurry up and wait.
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Postby Bill K » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 12:43 pm

Did anyone get the name and contact number of the guy that does the wood-look painting? I forgot to get one of his cards. :?:
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Postby GregR » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 1:21 pm

Bill, that's eric anderson

he's on our forum as user eanderson

maybe he'd like to be a sponsor :D
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Postby Bill K » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 1:26 pm

Thanks :)
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Postby Texasbuggys » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 3:04 pm

Here is a link to his website. The guy is super talented. Heck of a nice guy on top of that! He will be getting some of my biz in the future. The square back was one of the coolest ridest ever! Awesome paint and interior made for one really cool VW and as Murzi stated it was the bomb!

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Postby Patrick » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 5:17 pm

Yep, I can vouch for the great paint work that Eric does.
Seen it in person. Just check out his car.

I took a photo of his car over the weekend outside of town.
Check out the photos. Great Airbrush skills.


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Postby eanderson » 22 Tue Apr, 2008 8:19 pm

It was nice to meet alot of you at the classic, great club!! Thanks alot for all the compliments on my work!! :shock: :D My family and I had a great time at the Classic. Thanks Patrick and Lori for all your kindness and help. Those are some sweet pictures!!!!! You do some great looking photography work :shock:
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Postby David O' » 23 Wed Apr, 2008 8:52 am

Well, I see that someone was noticed at the classic. My only comment is that people need to know how to act in public. We all have our rights....but I have always thought it good to be considerate of other's feelings and situations.
The few people that shall remain nameless, always go to shows, get drunk, get loud, make messes, and in general get others to feel uncomfortable.
Acting like an idiot, either young or old, is stupid and shows no concern for anyone. You guys will be upset if the classic is stopped because the actions of a few ruined it for all.
This is not the only time that the few have caused events to be moved....and they just don't get it. If one of the guys "having fun" with the burnouts, lost it and hit someone's kid, I'd be just real glad to give the parents a gun, and let them "have fun".
I think that the best solution would be to have the "hey, I'm stupid" section, and keep that under lock and key until the event is over.
The organizers could sell tickets to everyone, and they could use this time to explain to their families how drug, boooze, and substance abuse leads to stupid! LOL! :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh, and everyone else could get a price break on the cost of going to the show.....that sounds like a win win deal to me. :lol: :lol:
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Postby David O' » 23 Wed Apr, 2008 8:54 am

Hey Bill, are you SURE that wasn't your buggy? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Bill K » 23 Wed Apr, 2008 10:28 am

Hey David --- I just got my Medicare Card, and I'm running a stock 1600, so I don't meet the qualifications for burnouts. :lol: :lol: .
I sure agree with what you said about stupid actions.
I've heard that part of the problem was what happened when an attempt was made to shut down the bad behavior.
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Postby staggerwing » 23 Wed Apr, 2008 10:41 am

If it was a yellow buggy, I can assure you all it wasn't "the plug-foulin mama! It would have sounded like a shoot-out rather than a burn-out. All I can add to this post is IF they have a Classic next year - no barkin dogs!
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Postby David O' » 23 Wed Apr, 2008 11:00 am

Well, if I can't bark.....I'll just tuck my tail between MY legs, and stay home! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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We missed the O'Bannion brothers

Postby Texasbuggys » 23 Wed Apr, 2008 11:44 am

We looked out for the O'Bannion brothers but none were to be seen.
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Postby blackthree4me » 23 Wed Apr, 2008 12:22 pm

no body ask but heres my opinion.

I would have to say that we as the core of the Texas manx club
responde to the Texas coalition of clubs. that next year admission price be raised and onsite security be provided day and night for the duration of the event.
those that cant follow the rules go to jail.

I would also have to say that we as a club did not follow thru with our comitment to voulenteering duties, I know I dident.
if you had on a red shirt for the weekend you are excluded from this note
but if you dident
maybe next year, wont cut it any more. as there might not be a next year.



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but every time I looked over you were swamped
My kids espicialy like the Gun gear shifter and my wife was curious about the tanks inside your car
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Postby Little Fire » 23 Wed Apr, 2008 2:10 pm

I would like to make a reply to the comment about the barking dogs. I was the one with the German Shephard. And, if you noticed, mine wasn't the one that was barking. When she did, I was quick to stop her.

On Saturday, after the cruise, I took her across the field towards the water to keep her away from everyone out of respect for other people. The dogs that were barking were the two little white ones tied together. And, they were fighting with each other.

The majority of the noise at the show on Sunday came from the 3 small poodles at the front in the cage and the basset hound that was left tied to the front of the truck next to our bus.

I don't like hearing barking dogs any more than the next person. I think that is inconsiderate of other people. But, please, don't ban the good dogs just because of a few bad ones. That would be the same thing as cancelling the Texas VW Classic just because of a couple of stupid people who were using foul language and driving recklessly.
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Postby big balls magee » 24 Thu Apr, 2008 7:41 am

just so people know, the persons in the red shirts that came to stop the burnouts. said ( this is the last one, by the way can i have a beer?) and he continued to let them do it as long as he had his beer once it was gone is when he said it was over and that he would call the police.

i heard on another site that it was 10 times worse last year and that they didnt make half this much drama about it.
i also heard the the burnout thing is only a part of why they may not have it next year, it was the fact that steve chamberlin says that ( once the show becomes no fun its time to stop) i think there just needs to be more help to get it organized

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Postby eanderson » 24 Thu Apr, 2008 9:37 pm

blackthree4me wrote:no body ask but heres my opinion.

I would have to say that we as the core of the Texas manx club
responde to the Texas coalition of clubs. that next year admission price be raised and onsite security be provided day and night for the duration of the event.
those that cant follow the rules go to jail.

I would also have to say that we as a club did not follow thru with our comitment to voulenteering duties, I know I dident.
if you had on a red shirt for the weekend you are excluded from this note
but if you dident
maybe next year, wont cut it any more. as there might not be a next year.



now back to our program

Eric glad to have you as a memeber here at the texas MC
our paint dept is a little slow over here in the forums
as most of us dont have a clue!
I wanted to come over at the show
(we were two doors down in the Red Ghia)
but every time I looked over you were swamped
My kids espicialy like the Gun gear shifter and my wife was curious about the tanks inside your car
great work and realy great spokesman for VWs
if you can make a type III look that good anything is posible
welcome to the club
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Sorry we didn't get a chance to talk, but here's the answers to those questions..... The paint gun on the shifter will lower the car. Two ball valves release air from the front and rear bags to the gun, pull the trigger, air comes out, and car goes down! The paint gun is just for fun, I have electric silenoids and switches to work the air ride. The tank in back is the air tank. Of course the front is gas. Thanks for the compliments, and the welcome!!
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Postby GrandMaster B » 25 Fri Apr, 2008 12:21 am

David O' wrote:Well, I see that someone was noticed at the classic. My only comment is that people need to know how to act in public. We all have our rights....but I have always thought it good to be considerate of other's feelings and situations.
The few people that shall remain nameless, always go to shows, get drunk, get loud, make messes, and in general get others to feel uncomfortable.
Acting like an idiot, either young or old, is stupid and shows no concern for anyone. You guys will be upset if the classic is stopped because the actions of a few ruined it for all.
This is not the only time that the few have caused events to be moved....and they just don't get it. If one of the guys "having fun" with the burnouts, lost it and hit someone's kid, I'd be just real glad to give the parents a gun, and let them "have fun".
I think that the best solution would be to have the "hey, I'm stupid" section, and keep that under lock and key until the event is over.
The organizers could sell tickets to everyone, and they could use this time to explain to their families how drug, boooze, and substance abuse leads to stupid! LOL! :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh, and everyone else could get a price break on the cost of going to the show.....that sounds like a win win deal to me. :lol: :lol:


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Postby GrandMaster B » 25 Fri Apr, 2008 12:27 am

Patrick wrote:Your correct! It was the guy that had the yellow buggy for sale. He was doing the burn outs and doing the donuts right in front of the trailers which house the park rangers or who ever they are by the front gates.

I heard from two people who have said that due to burn outs and the people camping and trashing the grounds they are trying to decide on not having it next year.

We were in the back of the line for the cruise on Saturday. Two Air coolers were cussing up a storm and trying to fight one another. One was drunk! Okay I'll just say he was drinking a beer than driving. When the cruise started he got in his bug and drove off.


One that guy was not a aircooler, (that i am aware of) and two I am not going to take someone trashing me. I don't care who was there and who was watching, I didn't see any children so my bad on that. I was not even close to being drunk, and last time i checked one beer is not over the legal limit. If you had a problem with what i said or did you were there guess you should have rolled up and expressed your problem and I'm sure we could have straightened it out ;-)
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Postby GrandMaster B » 25 Fri Apr, 2008 12:33 am

Buggy1 wrote:I don't ever read the air coolers site so I can not see what they said. I only hope that the Texas Manx Dune Buggy Club had nothing to do with it ( the doing doughnuts or burnouts ). I have seen some displays around here by the air coolers getting drunk, fighting at shows, and generally being roudy. I never go to any of their shows after the first one I attended due to this behavor. But I would not be surprised if yet another activity is going away because of those who just don't know how to behave. Where did this new generation think that tearing up stuff and trashing and fighting is a right of passage?

I only hope that we will not be associated with those who tore up a state park, that would be just great since we always seem to assign our club name to the support group..........I would not want that associated to our club. For those who did......... keep it up, pretty soon they will not allow us to gather anywhere!

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Don't worry man the Aircoolers have been around 7 years were not going anywhere, hate on us all you like ;-)
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Postby Patrick » 25 Fri Apr, 2008 1:20 am

Sorry fighting is not my game. I don't get into other people's cussing matches. Wasn't about to get into your deal. You had it all handled by yourself. Two grown men saying the F word back and fourth to one another and you were so close I was waiting for one of you to knock each other out..

We don't need those kinds of people at shows. It ruins it for the rest of us.

I don't have anything against the aircoolers. I have friends in that club. The dude that was doing the donuts wasn't even in the aircoolers and I think he was there by himself. I just over heard someone say when you were yelling at the top of your lungs with bald dude by the porta potty they said check out them Aircoolers. When I was going to become a police officer the last time I checked drinking a beer and driving was against the law in the state of Texas, but now a days it's only if you get caught.
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OK, this is done. Topic locked. Let's make any more comments or new topics concerning the Classic postive ones, you know simple stuff like how to keep it going for the next year and maybe about what was good about the whole weekend.
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